While I was crook – I received anonymous comments on the blog, I don’t intend publishing these comments in full because they are basically abusive, and defamantory, but to give you an idea of what one has to put up with when speaking out against injustice in Kwinana, here is a run down:
“Without industry you would not have the fuel for your car, the plastic for your computer and the paint for everything amoungst some basic things. I find it deplorable that you need to cast so much dispersion on the industries that provide you with everything you use on a daily basis, especially when you DO NOT have the information, or do not quote any scientific data to make these assumptions.”
“As i have said, every one, include you Stevo, are dependant on the industires to provide basic materials for daily life. I am sure if you succedd in closing or causing immense pain to one of these industires and it results in price rise for items, you would be the first to winge to the government about how they should of stopped it from happening and how people can now not afford things because we have to get it from somewhere else and it now costs double.”
“Your blog is full of half truths that justify your complaints and do not in any way aid the environmental movement in any way what so ever”
“I deliberately searched out your blog as your name is prominant in the enviromental area, but i have since discovered that you appear to be, in my opinion, an lifeless man who wants to winge about every damn thing you can think of yet still depend on the thing industry provides you.”
“Oh Stevo, I do care, I am all for abiding by rules, but i am finding that your blog is full of assumptions and winges. You can live in a residential area without illegal noise. Didn't you realise that the industry was allready in your back yard when you were growing up? Kwinana was build to house the builders of the strip and now you complain about it? Move if you do not like the noise. No one is forcing you to stay.”
“Steve, you need to post my replies. Where are they??”
“Steve, where are my replies? Proof you only print what proofs your point.Round one to me, even though you are too scared to show it to all of your loyal followers. How does it go....NOT... “
“Steve you are a biased greeny. Why do you not print my replies?? “
“You spinless fuck. Your blog is full of lies and biased bullshit. You are too spinless to even post retorts. No one appears to read your blog based on the number of comments, and it seems you lied about cancer rates in Kwinana”
Normally I would ignore this, but decided to post these comments to give readers an idea of what anyone who speaks out against environmental injustice in Kwinana is up against. I won’t even waste my time and energy responding to some of the acusations because I am sure that most readers out there realise what is going on.
“Without industry you would not have the fuel for your car, the plastic for your computer and the paint for everything amoungst some basic things. I find it deplorable that you need to cast so much dispersion on the industries that provide you with everything you use on a daily basis, especially when you DO NOT have the information, or do not quote any scientific data to make these assumptions.”
“As i have said, every one, include you Stevo, are dependant on the industires to provide basic materials for daily life. I am sure if you succedd in closing or causing immense pain to one of these industires and it results in price rise for items, you would be the first to winge to the government about how they should of stopped it from happening and how people can now not afford things because we have to get it from somewhere else and it now costs double.”
“Your blog is full of half truths that justify your complaints and do not in any way aid the environmental movement in any way what so ever”
“I deliberately searched out your blog as your name is prominant in the enviromental area, but i have since discovered that you appear to be, in my opinion, an lifeless man who wants to winge about every damn thing you can think of yet still depend on the thing industry provides you.”
“Oh Stevo, I do care, I am all for abiding by rules, but i am finding that your blog is full of assumptions and winges. You can live in a residential area without illegal noise. Didn't you realise that the industry was allready in your back yard when you were growing up? Kwinana was build to house the builders of the strip and now you complain about it? Move if you do not like the noise. No one is forcing you to stay.”
“Steve, you need to post my replies. Where are they??”
“Steve, where are my replies? Proof you only print what proofs your point.Round one to me, even though you are too scared to show it to all of your loyal followers. How does it go....NOT... “
“Steve you are a biased greeny. Why do you not print my replies?? “
“You spinless fuck. Your blog is full of lies and biased bullshit. You are too spinless to even post retorts. No one appears to read your blog based on the number of comments, and it seems you lied about cancer rates in Kwinana”
Normally I would ignore this, but decided to post these comments to give readers an idea of what anyone who speaks out against environmental injustice in Kwinana is up against. I won’t even waste my time and energy responding to some of the acusations because I am sure that most readers out there realise what is going on.
10 comments:
Well Steve, I have read some crap before but that blogger takes the cake. You have given the curtesy of responding to him/her where most would not waste their time. Kwinana was built for the workers but in saying that, it did not give industries the right to break the laws when they pleased. This blogger is a moron & knows little, definately not worth the time of day.
Did any of these people who call your facts erroneous provide a basis for their argument? I'm all for for and against arguments - not abuse.
Some people need to revisit the concept of freedom of speech - and use it wisely.
Thanks for the comments Observer, these comments were posted by the same person. I do not know how they can make the claim I have provided no scientific evidence when the evidence is often provided via links, quotes etc. but then they failed to provide any evidence for their argument. As most people who know me realise - I am all for debate and am willing to debate publicly on Kwinana Environmental issues, but the usual is that I am the one that has to come up with all the evidence while some of those who support industry like this just make wild allegations and turn it into personal abuse. As for the claim that I am spineless I don't hide behind posting anonymously but note with interest that they do. At the end of the day its nothing new just a tactic often used in an attempt to discredit those who dare to speak out.
When will industry begin practising what they preach in the glossy information packages. Why cant they bring themselves to tell the truth. The problem for them is that not everyone can be duped by silly spin doctors. Lets face it industry only cares about one thing and that is profit first and they are only here to make profits if not they wouldnt be here in the first place. What about noncompliance of enviromental licences. Wake up fool.
While they may have meant spineless, they did say spinless. Twice. Which, apart from the fact that it shows they can't spell, is probably more of a compliment to you Steve - no spin here!
Any idea who it is? The use of the name Stevo makes me think you might be familiar to them. Good to see they've got the guts to make such abusive comments WITHOUT identifying themselves...
Thanks Dave,
I have my ideas (IP address recorded), but I will hold onto that for now,
Welcome back Steve, I realise this is a bit late but I have been busy. It would appear that there are many people, and I use people with caution, who are still unable to see past their own biased self interest. Of course the country requires industries to grow and prosper! we all understand that. But what is wrong with wanting to have the cleanest industrial base possible? The answer is naturally nothing. Even company heads admit publically that there are pollution problems. evidenced by their published attempts to reduce emissions and pollution, some successful and some not, and to my mind the more successes the better.Sadly there will always be some who will deny that there are problems and will turn a blind eye to spewing stacks, leaky tanks, dying and denuded vegetation, spillages plus a myriad of other things which can be fixed easily. The attitude of " out of sight out of mind" is also very obviously present i.e. tip it down a deep well and problem solved. Luckily for all of us there are some people, and I do use that term correctly here, who at their own peril continue to draw attention to dangerous and deadly practices in the hope that such practices can and will be reduced or eliminated. Keep up the good (hard) work Steve A safer future for all of us, even those who bag you,threaten you or try to deny you your right to speak, will be your reward.
Steve when they start abusing you know your winning their taking notice and I know from experience it makes you feel stronger and want to fight more,''power to you''
Thanks for the comments all.
Jeanie - your right - when it becomes personal attacks as it has of late, it does indicate that we are having an impact and yes it does increase the motivation to keep on fighting.
You will note that I have not published anonymous comments on this post, appologies to all thos those who wanted to comment anonymously but for obvious reasons I didnt think it appropriate in this instance.
Steve
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